Should You Know Which Homes Have Guns?

An article and database published by The Journal News has gone viral.

Do you want to know where lawful gun owners live in your neighborhood? Should this information not only be public but publicized?

"Overkill?" asks The Daily Beast, writing about the publication by The Journal News on Dec. 22 of gun permit holders across three counties, including Westchester. The database article on LoHud.com includes a map with dots for each household licensed to own a handgun, namely pistols and revolvers.

The map has gone viral, having been widely Tweeted and Liked on Facebook close to 28,000 times as of Dec. 26.

Some parents, in the wake of the Newtown school shootings, have expressed their desire to know which homes their kids might be playing in have potentially lethal weapons in them.

One woman wrote on Tarrytown-Sleepy Hollow Patch’s Facebook page: “I just watched on the news: 38 percent of the people in America have a gun in their houses. Should we ask about this when our children go to a playdate?”

This is the second time the Hudson Valley newspaper and website has published database reporting on gun ownership. The release of the info online this year has some gun advocates worried for their safety and complaining of their privacy infringement, according to the Daily Beast

The information was obtained by filing Freedom of Information requests.

The Journal News stands behind its decision. "We knew publication of the database would be controversial, but we felt sharing as much information as we could about gun ownership in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings," CynDee Royle, editor and vice president/news of The Journal News, said to the Daily Beast.

Racman63 December 27, 2012 at 06:33 PM
From the American Academy of Pediatrics. This recommendation is promulgated by the Pediatric practices to their pateints' families. It's posted in my house along w/ advice on choking, poison control etc. Word for Word: More than 44 million Americans own firearms. Of the 192 million firearms owned in the United States, 65 million are handguns. Research shows guns in homes are a serious risk to families. •A gun kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill someone known to the family than to kill someone in self-defense. •A gun kept in the home triples the risk of homicide. •The risk of suicide is 5 times more likely if a gun is kept in the home. Advice to parents The best way to keep your children safe from injury or death from guns is to NEVER have a gun in the home. •Do not purchase a gun, especially a handgun. •Remove all guns present in the home. •Talk to your children about the dangers of guns, and tell them to stay away from guns. •Find out if there are guns in the homes where your children play. If so, talk to the adults in the house about the dangers of guns to their families. For those who know of the dangers of guns but still keep a gun in the home. •Always keep the gun unloaded and locked up. •Lock and store the bullets in a separate place. •Make sure to hide the keys to the locked boxes
Giovanni December 27, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Police officers do not have CCP's, so they are not on this list. Not taking sides -- just clearing things up.
FJT December 27, 2012 at 07:23 PM
Didn't do any good at all in that particular case because apparently she did not follow the information you shared below that says guns should be locked up, plus she had an unstable young man living under the same roof -- a bad combination with fairly predictable results.
JJ December 27, 2012 at 07:42 PM
@ Giovanni....SORRY to tell you this but I saw the names of at least 5 retired police officers that I know on the list; including a retired Chief of Police. This is what we're talking about.
JJ December 27, 2012 at 07:59 PM
@Racman..........good points; especially the last part about locking, securing weapons. I also believe we need to address: 1. Gratuitous Hollywood violence 2. Medication issues 3. The mentally ill and their access to weapons and no programs to help them from local/ state government 4. Violent video games 5. Specific music that encourages violence on women and children and people in general 6. The media's exploitation of violent acts spurred on by the 24/ 7 "need for news" 8. Celebrity endorsements regarding "gun control" from the same people who have armed security personnel with them )24/7 (i.e. Mayor Bloomberg, Rosie O'Donnell etc.). NO MORE DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO ENDORSEMENTS. 9. TV violence and the culture that has created So I agree with some of the things that you're saying but there's a lot more to it than JUST guns. Thanks.
FJT December 27, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Abused women hiding out from crazy spouses and boyfriends were outed by the Journal News. Whoops. Now the crazies know where the women live. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/27/blogger-journal-news-addresses-gun-owners_n_2369750.html
Tea Leaves December 27, 2012 at 08:18 PM
All of a sudden pediatrists are gun ownership and constitutional experts? The AAP, like the AARP are political players: In 2012, the Academy reaffirmed its commitment to advocating for the strongest possible firearm regulations. The absence of guns in homes and communities is the most reliable and effective measure to prevent firearm-related injuries in children and adolescents. The AAP supports a number of specific measures to reduce the destructive effects of guns in the lives of children and adolescents, including the regulation of the manufacture, sale, purchase, ownership, and use of firearms; a ban assault weapons; and expanded regulations of handguns for civilian use... 2012 State Action Following in the steps of a high profile 2011 Florida law, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and West Virginia all introduced bills that would restrict physician firearm counseling. The Tennessee and West Virginia bills were worded similarly to the Florida law, threatening disciplinary actions for a physician that asked about the presence of guns within a child’s home and play areas... In late June 2012, US District Judge Marcia G. Cooke (Southern District of Florida-Miami) issued a ruling permanently enjoining the Florida law restricting physician speech on firearms counseling from going into effect. The state of Florida has appealed the ruling to the US Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit. . The Academy has signed on to an amicus brief supporting the lower court’s ruling... 
Giovanni December 27, 2012 at 08:25 PM
I didn't say retired, and either did the original poster. The original poster mentioned 'cops' and all I did was clear it up. Again -- not taking sides.
Racman63 December 28, 2012 at 01:49 AM
JJ: Good points all BUT, do you recall back to middle school mathematics, specifically the lesson on factoring? The common denominator in all your points is GUNS. I keep trying to stress this point. I have nothing against legal gun owners, but in the end, it is the instrument, the tool, the thing, called a gun, that causes the needless, senseless, violent deaths of so many innocents. Outrage without action is futile. IF there is one thing we can do to keep another Sandy Hook from happening it is this: Tighten, strengthen and Rethink gun ownership laws. This means banning the possession of semi-automatic weapons and high capacity clips, requiring gun owners to keep their weapon under lock and key, requiring licensing AND registration of guns, taxing ammunition the same way we tax cigarettes (very high). Americans may, may, have the right to arms, but after Sandy Hook, they've lost the moral high ground. The right, as a necessity of public health policy, must now morph into a privilege.
JJ December 28, 2012 at 03:25 AM
. Racman..........Legal gun owners who have passed the stringent screening shouldn't be held responsible for the fools, the insane and the truly evil who commit these crimes. Look at the OTHER FACTORS involved here and that will plot the course for better laws. Like someone said...........SPOONS DON'T MAKE PEOPLE FAT; IT'S WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL DOES WITH THEM. Laws NEED to change but so does Hollywood, rap music, TV violence, videos, mental health laws etc. You want to PICK one thing (GUNS) but it's ALL interwoven. GOOD LUCK WITH HOLLYWOOD FOR STARTERS!!!
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:12 AM
Everyone should boycott The Journal News!!!! I will never purchase another one of their paper's again!!!!
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:22 AM
Hey Raceman63, if all your firearms are secured in a gun safe, how is one supposed to protect you and your family when those people do a home invasion. Wait a minute bad guy(s), I have to unlock my gun safe via combination...it might take a while so help yourselves to my family and belongings in the mean time. I bet you were never a victim.
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:32 AM
So Rod, do you have a criminal record and cannot obtain a pistol permit? Perhaps your name and address should be posted on line in a database. And why would you imply that people who own firearms are nut cases!
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:39 AM
Giovanni, I have many friends that are active Police Officers. They've had pistol permits prior to becoming Police Officers and still do. They're names were among the ones posted on that dispicable paper they call The Journal News. Just wanted to clarify it.
Tea Leaves December 28, 2012 at 02:47 PM
According to RM63... "Americans may, may, have the right to arms, but after Sandy Hook, they've lost the moral high ground. Two problems. One, Americans do have the right to bear arms, not "may". Look at your precious list 63, it is a right. Two, "they've lost the moral high ground." This could only be true if RM63 were the Moral Authority in this world. Which of course he or she is not. I suspect most gun owners have a clear sense of from where their rights (and their moral authority) has been endowed. And it certainly ain't from "RM63". Here's an idea 63, why don't you and yours simply go about the proper procedures for changing the constitution? Maybe because in reality the numbers are not on your side. Not even close. God Bless.
Giovanni December 28, 2012 at 03:11 PM
@Gannicus. I have been a police officer for 32 years. I know not one LEO that has a carry permit.
Concerned Homeowner December 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
What a wonderful treasure map for burglars and home invaders courtesy of journal news! Now it's just wait and watch until the residents leave and another gun is on the streets. Newtown is a sad tragedy but the statistics don't lie. More people die on the streets everyday across America from illegal and stolen handguns then in these massacres.
BooBees December 28, 2012 at 04:01 PM
OMG! From today's NY Post: Madwoman last night pushed a stranger onto subway tracks in Queens, where he was killed by a train, police and witnesses said. It was the second such nightmare in less than a month. The unsuspecting victim was waiting at the elevated 40th Street station of the 7 line in Sunnyside at 8 p.m. Better publish the names and addresses of all women with hands in the NY area immediately!!!!
Concerned Homeowner December 28, 2012 at 04:12 PM
yea we better try to ban trains as well. People are so ignorant. I hope journal news gets a class action lawsuit.
FJT December 28, 2012 at 04:51 PM
I'm sure there are hundreds of attorneys who would be more than happy to file a class action lawsuit. What passes for journalism these days is an insult to most viewers/readers. It's more about pushing agendas than objectivity, and people can be seriously harmed (e.g., the outing of abused women's addresses whose stalkers now know where they live thanks to the J-N). I've met quite a few Russians over the years who laugh at the mention of journalism. They never took their newspapers seriously while living under Soviet rule because they knew their journalists were feeding them BS. It seems the mainstream media in the US today has much more in common with "Pravda" than what we had back in the Huntley-Brinkley days when objectivity and fairness mattered. Shame on the Journal News and their parent company.
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Giovanni, no disrespect! Perhaps the LEO's you know are on NYPD...NYC has laws on the books that do not apply to the rest of the state. If I'm informed correctly NYPD makes you turn in your pistol permit if you get on their job. Sorry bro...some cops do have pistol permits, and they ARE on that discgraceful newspaper's list.
Gannicus December 28, 2012 at 05:29 PM
I'm with you BooBees! Maybe they should pass laws banning subway trains!
FJT December 28, 2012 at 06:17 PM
Sheriff Arpaio is sending armed posses to protect his county's schools. If I had a kid in a Maricopa County, AZ public school, I'd be grateful that something effective is being done to protect the kids from murderous nuts who don't respect "This Is a Gun Free Zone" signs. Few parents can afford to send their kids to private schools with armed security, though those who send their kids to schools with armed security seem to be awfully quick to dictate how they should live. http://www.azfamily.com/news/Sheriff-Arpaio-is-sending-posse-to-protect-schools-185012341.html
FJT December 28, 2012 at 06:19 PM
Meant to end the above post with: "dictate how others should live."
BooBees December 28, 2012 at 07:07 PM
STEAK KNIVES, HAMMERS & SUVs What is the difference between a steak knife and a murder weapon? Or a hammer and a murder weapon? Or those killer SUVs? Any sicko can purchase any of the aforementioned, and all, very unfortunately, have been used in horrifying, vicious murder/manslaughter cases in our beloved counties over the years. Quick, Ms. Hasson please print the names of every homeowner in Westchester and Rockland that legally owns cutlery, tools and an automobile. Please don't focus on the actual folks who take these inanimate objects and through their thoughts and actions use them to cause death and destruction. Let's not hold the people who commit these crimes responsible for their actions, that would be lunacy. Lets hold the lifeless, soul-less, brainless, emotionless objects they use to carry out their madness to account instead. Funny how the first amendment was followed immediately by the second. Perhaps now we know why. Those Crazy Founding Fathers... what a bunch of cooks!
Gannicus December 29, 2012 at 04:09 AM
Hey BooBees, You hit the nail on the head! Lets not forget religion...Religion has killed more people than firearms ever have! Maybe they should draw up legislation against religion and ban it as well!
BooBees December 29, 2012 at 05:10 AM
Don't need legislation, they are Community Organizing it right out from under our noses.
Aidan December 29, 2012 at 01:10 PM
”If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.” ~The Dalai Lama
Full Truth December 30, 2012 at 06:15 AM
If you are going to print so called "news" print it all. Media Quiet About San Antonio Theater Shooting Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:16 Share 0 (Before It's News) On Sunday December 17, 2012, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend. After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It’s like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant! Now aren’t you wondering why this isn’t a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone. So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened. Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you’d like to know. Source Agenda revealed! If you had any doubts that the media was pushing for this and who their masters were, doubt no longer. This is spooky. Alot of what you read in the ‘conspiracy world’ is bull but there IS alot of truth too.. You just have to sort out the facts yourself. -Mort
This State is Screwed February 25, 2013 at 04:54 AM
Guns are already required to be locked in a safe. You live in Port Chester, and that is in NY isn't it? Obviously you don't know the law, which is half your problem. The other half is that you are a pontificating, liberal nut case...as bad as the right wingers you profess to hate. Too bad you can't drag the dead lady in front of your kangaroo court and charge her for failing to lock her guns. She is the reason those kids are dead....she failed to commit her retard son, then she failed to keep a close eye on him and she also failed to lock up her guns. SHE is at fault. Not the tool he used. But the moronic left wing media just considers her a victim.....and I bet you do to.


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