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Port Chester: Snow Clean Up Hampered By Residents On Some Streets

Snow pushed back into street as property owners, car owners dig out.

As Port Chester officials look back on this weekend's efforts to remove snow after the blizzard that hit the area, they are finding some residents contributed to local problems pushing snow into the street as they cleaned up their property and cars.

"What has been adding insult to injury is that property owners have been pushing their snow into the street and all areas where there are parked cars are doing the same," said Port Chester Village Manage Christopher Steers. "I have been driving around the village since Friday night and as of (Monday) afternoon almost every street that remains a concern is a direct result of that activity."

Port Chester was hit with an estimated 18 inches of snow from the storm that started Friday and lasted into the early-morning hours of Saturday. While Port Chester's DPW crew worked throughout the storm and through the weekend, the village has been hit by complaints by many residents who were dissatisfied by local road conditions on Sunday and Monday.

Steers and other village officials praised the work of DPW members in and after the storm. However, Steers said the storm exposed problems the DPW has with its equipment and raised issues that need to be addressed as Port Chester prepares its next village budget.

On Monday, Steers said he directed the DPW to do additional plowing in problem areas.

"I directed the DPW crew to re-plow those areas ...," Steers said. "I have to again note that DPW crews have been out working on snow removal almost non-stop in addition to their regular trash service, etc... Our capacity is limited however, and DPW staff still need to be commended on their efforts because they are continuing to do an excellent job with the tools they have."

In addition to the continued plowing, the village has:

- Suspeneded routine street cleaning operations for the week. 

- Kept parking meter rules in effect on Main Street.

- Set bulk removal of snow from Main Street for this week.

Steers said Port Chester is also looking at road treatment methods used by neighboring municipalities for possible use in Port Chester. A key method that made a visibible difference on roads elsewhere - such as in Rye Brook - was the use of a brine solution on roads before the storm.

Steers credits this brine solution for helping keep snow from re-freezing on roads in those communities, giving the roads a snow- and ice-free appearance. Steers noted that as Port Chester crews were clearing snow after the storm, conditions on village roads were affected by the melting and re-freezing of snow and by village property owners and car owners throwing snow into the streets.

overly concerned February 12, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Aidan - I couldn't agree with you more!
John February 12, 2013 at 09:47 PM
Yeah Aidan, do yourself a favor and fire the current mayor.
joemamma February 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM
it seems port chester is full of sloiled little brat child like people
nick g February 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM
if all these people werent driving around aimlessly during the first half of the storm packing it all down which eventually froze over and made that layer of it un-plowable you people are definitly ungreatful and arrogant bunch of know it alls! comparing towns like rye brook rye greenwich where there is no traffic like in port chester and barley any street parking is not right, that gives the crews out there a huge obstacle while trying to make you fine pc residents happy next time in a snow storm go to greenwich and rye brook take a look at their equipment and count how many workers they have then go to port chester and see that there is probaly no more than 15 people out there using trucks from the 70's!! nothing up to date gjys before you open your mouths give the guys who are trying to help you with what they have a break. ungreatful . only word i need to use.
eatingdogfood February 12, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Gee, sounds like Mrs G gave a heads up to her friends. Lol
eatingdogfood February 12, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Driving aimlessly? Ok, sure.
overly concerned February 12, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Yea, I gave my friends the heads up. That's a prime example of how small minded you are. As soon as someone else disagrees with you you automatically think they are in it together. Not the case whatsoever. I am assuming you think Aidan and I are friends as well? Grow up. Use your big boy name on here and get a life.
American Woman February 13, 2013 at 01:31 AM
The plowing on the streets SUCKED, the surrounding areas did not have a flake on their streets. For these politicians to put blame on the tax paying citizens of this town is ridiculous. I happen to live on a street where there is parking on both sides of the street, the plowing in the middle of the road was ok (not good, or great, but there were tire marks). No one on my street put their snow in the middle of the road (which i only saw on 2 streets). However, on the opposite side of town, where everyone parks in driveways, and the streets were free of cars were the worst roads i have ever seen. Park Avenue is the best example of that, there are NO houses in front of the school, what happened there? Did anyone have to drive to work bright and early Monday morning?? i slid from the top of a hill to the bottom, on 3 hills. I give credit to all who were out doing the best they could, its not their fault they are understaffed with no supplies
Guala February 13, 2013 at 02:20 AM
No salt trucks came out before during or after until last night (mon) I know pc has temps working for thesummer. Why wweren't they called to wirk for this week and next to get us caught up. I wonder if the mayor and board would take a pay cut to hel out with the damage? We have a mayor and a village manager? LoL two people to run pc? And then they hired a colsultant? There goes all the salt money for the winter lol rye and rye brook both salted their main streets with that liquid salt during and after. Why couldn't we? Oh yeah "budgets"
John February 13, 2013 at 02:28 AM
No one is allowed to complain because Aidan and Mrs Graham said so. We are supposed to accept shoddy work. Expect it and accept it. And pay for it too.
overly concerned February 13, 2013 at 02:44 AM
Johnny boy is at it again. Give it up. Seriously. These guys know how hard they work on a daily basis and after reading some of these comments so do others as well. You are irrelevant.
Allison February 13, 2013 at 12:25 PM
our street is a mess.. no parking available most of the time.. snow is piled up everywhere.. can barely turn ur car around. we didnt get enough salt..... 42 degree temp helped. u can only do so much but then again it cud be worst.. :) count ur blessings!
Bob February 13, 2013 at 01:36 PM
The fact is the roads were terrible after the snow storm. Yes people put snow back into the streets shoveling out their cars but that does not negate the fact that there was several inches of pact snow that froze before this happened. Even the Village Mgr stated in another article that the equipment we have is not heavy enough to get to the borrom of the snow. Why is it not heavy enough this year. In my humble opinion this was the worst the village has done in snow plowing for whatever reason
Bob February 13, 2013 at 01:54 PM
Everyone has a right to epress their opinion. I don't know why some people who disagree with others who express them selves politely fnd it necessarey to be rude. Calling names, moron, and telling someone they are irrelevant does not move the discussion forward in a helpful manner
overly concerned February 13, 2013 at 02:31 PM
@Bob - You have to be kidding me? Others who express themselves POLITELY?!? What world are you living in? Did you even read the comments some of these people left? Try reading all of it first BOB and then you let me know how HUMBLE everyone else's comments have been.
Silvio V. Buccieri February 13, 2013 at 02:56 PM
please tell us what happen to the snow budget money from last year?? we had snow IN October and that was it? its the overcrowding that they can't get control of. and we have to pay the price for it!! wake up Port Cester, we are drowning. Help'''
Clifton Hodge February 13, 2013 at 04:12 PM
Oh yea that was the first ten years. Now they pay. Time fly's. Where have I been.
MM11 February 13, 2013 at 06:13 PM
Mrs. Graham, You actually have done nothing but call people names and attempt to insult them this entire discussion. The extent of your contribution to this conversation has been your insight that the DPW guys work really hard. No one doubts this and we all appreciate their effort and commend them for putting in the hours. But the result of their hard work in this particular instance was not satisfactory and as a member of this village questioning why that was the case is important. There is no need for you to act like an internet tough guy over here... The people of this village pay for a DPW that should be capable of removing the snow, and want to know why it wasn't (or couldn't be) done. The answer might be as simple: resources might have been allocated elsewhere because a snowfall like this was not expected. That would be a reasonable explanation, and one worth discussing and considering in the future. But for Mr. Steers to make invalid excuses like blaming people who threw the snow back in the road way, when every town has this problem yet still managed to clear the snow, is not acceptable. So back to the topic: Why does the general foreman drive an oversized SUV when a pickup truck would be better at literally every single task assigned to a general foreman, while also being cheaper?
Tony February 13, 2013 at 06:22 PM
I can handle the truth. i cant handle stupidity.
American Woman February 13, 2013 at 07:12 PM
Mrs. Graham sounds like a Brakewood in disguise
overly concerned February 13, 2013 at 07:23 PM
@MM11 - So let me get this straight its ok for people to bash workers but I can't respond back with MY OPINION?? So everyone on here can say whatever they want about the workers in thie Village and that's fine but when somebody attacks back you all can't handle it?! Typical. I'm the internet tough guy when MEN are telling me to SHUT MY MOUTH because I'm an idiot. Yea, right. All of the people that said the roads weren't clean and the plow job sucked I never responded to them because they NEVER DIRECTLY BASHED an individually or the department. That in my opinion is stating your OPINION but when you DIRECTLY BASH individuals then I have EVERY RIGHT to voice my opinion on the matter whether you or anyone else agree with me. @John - I am an amazing woman! Thank you very much.
eatingdogfood February 13, 2013 at 07:27 PM
Um, Mrs. G, the proof was all over the streets in the aftermath of the storm. Taxpayers have every right to complain. You prefer to call names and intimidate people into being quiet. Go take a nap.
Joe Blow February 13, 2013 at 08:37 PM
PC DPW does a good job. They were amazing during sandy. The workers are not the problem. This storm’s cleanup was different. our streets were not clean, yes efforts are hampered by people throwing snow in the street, but this not new. playing the "we will plow u in if u put it in the street" game via fb comments is childish & not helping anyone.I think what is insulting is that mr steers has the audacity to blame residents of the village..we are not blind nor the first major storm in our village, whether you were not prepared, did not delegate properly, are completely understaffed or have no budget funds. i think if you dedicated 10% of the time you dedicate to haressing tax paying residents about permits, we would have had a much better outcome.. your code enforcement dept grows, problems you issue to good tax paying residents increases, yet slum lords dumping 10x the amount of garbage then that of a single family household have no issue. in the meantime, residents suffer bc DPW, Fire & police dept are not given necessary resources. mr steers & morabito need to address why they were unprepared, lack of budget $, not blame residents. i didnt put snow into the street, neither did my neighbors, 1 pickup truck with a plow came by at 3 am and 5am somewhat clearing a narrow path, you reorded trucks back out sunday,didnt happen. salter came 1x, monday morning at 930am. we have eyes,maybe this is your 1st snowfall mr steers being here since 09,we had far worse w/ better outcome
MM11 February 13, 2013 at 08:44 PM
Actually your insults have never once followed anyone calling out an individual in the comments section here - and it would be impossible for that to happen since no DPW individual has been called out at all. If you would like to offer your opinion as to why the DPW did not do a good job then I'd love to hear it. That might even be constructive. Personally, I saw the DPW using two six wheel dump trucks (landscape trucks) to plow public roadways. Those trucks are just too small for this amount of snow. But I'm willing to accept slightly worse road conditions following a massive storm if the alternative is buying an expensive dedicated snow removal truck which has no other uses. The landscape trucks can be used when it isn't snowing and are adequate when there is less severe snow storm. I think given PC's fiscal situation that is a reasonable trade off. You can't blame the DPW guys because they are out there with little tiny trucks trying to clear a foot and a half of snow. But make no mistake about it, the DPW didn't get the job done. That may not be the individual employees fault, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter which is that the job wasn't done well at all. So if you'd like to offer an opinion as to why that was, it's welcome, and if you want to insult everyone you have the right to do that too. But just insulting everyone is stupid.
Clifton Hodge February 15, 2013 at 05:25 AM
The guys at the DPW always do a great job. Another way of looking at it is, we hired a person from Florida to head the department .They don't plow snow in Florida. By next year he will have the on the job experience and a better strategy and then there is all that building dept / Code enforcement experience, or we could always hire a consultant. I think it is part of a trend. I believe a couple of years ago the village hired a consultant at 200k to tell us what roads needed to be re-surfaced. Years ago a person is hired to do a job, they knew how to do the job and did the job. They were responsible for the scope entailed with in the job for which they, in my opinion are paid extremely well. It is hard to believe someone at the DPW at that time was unable to decide which roads were in need of re-surfacing or they wanted to rely on information of a paid professional, there is less responsibility. What the hec they don't have to pay for it. Observations and opinions of a tax payer.
Pissed Off February 16, 2013 at 02:09 AM
Pissed off Mr Steers,with the salary we taxpayers are paying you, I doupt if you will go looking for a job in a state with no snow. Maybe you should consider curtailing the harassment of home owners with this CO crap and read up on snow removal. The job done this time was the worst ever and it wasn't because of people throwing snow back into the street. The snow was never plowed off the street. Put the blame where it belongs, on YOU !
Gofigure10573 February 16, 2013 at 05:04 AM
and you are a republican operative in disguise, Linda.
Bob February 16, 2013 at 10:40 AM
You cannot blame it all on Mr Steers. The supervisors and staff of DPW have been plowing for years and unless Mr Steers changed the process somehow he only shares the blame.
Interested Reader February 16, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Our Village, has historically, has done a great job with snow removal. We had a bad experience this time, for what reason I don't know, but I am sure the Manger and DPW Chief will in short order. I'm not seeing the correlation with this issue and the years of corruption that lead to the ramped up code efforts and the rebuilding of our Building Department. It's not perfect but it's better than a corrupt system I think.
Pissed Off February 16, 2013 at 07:09 PM
I do agree with Bob that not all the blame should be on Mr Steers. But ,as Village Manager, he is responsible for the dept heads that are responsible for this mess. Maybe getting rid of the former highway foreman wasn't such a good idea since no proof was found to warrant his dismissal. Now the taxpayers will foot the bill for the inevitable lawsuit to follow. Let's all say thank you to Chris Russo!

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